Hi all,
Just posted the workday report for E train.

http://www.apt-e.org/workdays/14april2012/14april2012.html

Look for a little suprise, a bit of fun.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group

Testing the repaired 1 set of E train horns for the first time at full pressure, totally un-cut video. Turn the sound up!!!!!

www.apt-e.org\horns.wmv

Enjoy

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group

Hi All,
Just posted the update for the APT-E site.

Some nice things to see.

http://www.apt-e.org/workdays/19may2012/19may2012.html

The video takes a while to start, depends on braodband speed.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group

Hello Silver_Dream_Racer,

Friday, May 25, 2012, 7:39:49 PM, you wrote:

> Hi All,
> Just posted the update for the APT-E site.

> Some nice things to see.

> http://www.apt-e.org/workdays/19may2012/19may2012.html

> The video takes a while to start, depends on braodband speed.

Nice one.. the video also works in Firefox.


Ken Ward.
--
Best regards,
G1ITV mailto:g1itv@...

After a bit of internet searching and a few phone calls I've managed to get hold of 4 x 2m lengths of straight BR standard Z section steel to repair the extensively rusted structure of Hastings Coach (Lab 4). I delivered them aboard the coach today and also saw how the ERM team are getting on with 49006.

The entire outside of the vehicle is now pprimer painted, in a very military looking green, but then it did spend most of its life at Kineton! I'll try and post the pics in a P Train gallery here as soon as I've posted this.

We now need a two welders, one a machine and the other a human being to use it so we can start repairing Hastings. <g>

Regards
Kit

I've just uploaded a bunch of photos of 49006, the National Collection Power Car which had arrived at Shildon around the time we moved APT-E from York after it had spent about 1/4 century outside at Kineton.

I TRIED to upload them in chronological order, but the uploader carefully re-arranged them into alphabetical order. Sometimes I HATE technology!!!!

Regards
Kit

Right, that's resorted them into chronological order.

But how much easier would it to be to post them in the order I upload them?

Regards
Kit

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "misterrtilt" <bosspecops@...> wrote:
>
> I've just uploaded a bunch of photos of 49006, the National Collection Power Car which had arrived at Shildon around the time we moved APT-E from York after it had spent about 1/4 century outside at Kineton.
>
> I TRIED to upload them in chronological order, but the uploader carefully re-arranged them into alphabetical order. Sometimes I HATE technology!!!!
>
> Regards
> Kit
>

Nice one Kit. Need to get back to work on the roof ASAP.

Sent from my iPhone

John Woolley's excellent Flickr feed has provided another gem...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7086881001/

Nick

An interesting photo tilt-wise that is.

The P-Train Power Car and most of the Trailer Cars seem to be tilting correctly, almost parallel to the track which would indicate the train is moving at line speed or slower. But the leading Trailer Car is tilting OUTWARD a little! Not to the full 9 degrees admittedly, but just a bit.

I'm at a loss to work out what could have happened there, unless that Trainler Car was caught right in the middle of an outward tilt failure.

Regards
Kit

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, Nick Wheat <wheaty@...> wrote:
>
> John Woolley's excellent Flickr feed has provided another gem...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7086881001/
>
> Nick
>

Kit

Would the tilt system be operational with no overhead power available?

Regards

Gerry

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On 05/06/2012 at 08:40 misterrtilt wrote:

>An interesting photo tilt-wise that is.
>
>The P-Train Power Car and most of the Trailer Cars seem to be tilting
>correctly, almost parallel to the track which would indicate the train is
>moving at line speed or slower. But the leading Trailer Car is tilting
>OUTWARD a little! Not to the full 9 degrees admittedly, but just a bit.
>
>I'm at a loss to work out what could have happened there, unless that
>Trainler Car was caught right in the middle of an outward tilt failure.
>
>Regards
>Kit
>
>
>--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, Nick Wheat <wheaty@...>
>wrote:
>>
>> John Woolley's excellent Flickr feed has provided another gem...
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7086881001/
>>
>> Nick
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

It's possible Gerry, yes. They could be running the sub-systems from the diesel APU and that counted tilt amongst its uses.

If they're running tilt passive the crew at the start point did a pretty poor job of setting it up! <g>

Regards
Kit

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "Gerry Bates" <gerry@...> wrote:
>
> Kit
>
> Would the tilt system be operational with no overhead power available?
>
> Regards
>
> Gerry
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
>
> On 05/06/2012 at 08:40 misterrtilt wrote:
>
> >An interesting photo tilt-wise that is.
> >
> >The P-Train Power Car and most of the Trailer Cars seem to be tilting
> >correctly, almost parallel to the track which would indicate the train is
> >moving at line speed or slower. But the leading Trailer Car is tilting
> >OUTWARD a little! Not to the full 9 degrees admittedly, but just a bit.
> >
> >I'm at a loss to work out what could have happened there, unless that
> >Trainler Car was caught right in the middle of an outward tilt failure.
> >
> >Regards
> >Kit
> >
> >
> >--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, Nick Wheat <wheaty@>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> John Woolley's excellent Flickr feed has provided another gem...
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/7086881001/
> >>
> >> Nick

Hi All,
Some of you maybe aware that the APT sites have been off since Saturday, this also includes mine and Robs email.

Ive just spoken to Paul Fletcher, and he has told me that there is a major hardware failure which is being worked on at the prsent time.

Sadly, he couldn't give me a date when the servers will be back up again at present.

I will keep you all posted.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group

Your APT-E.org email address is bouncing too Paul, presumably for the same reason. I got a bounce from it this morning after commenting on the potential move of venue for our next meeting.

Regards
Kit

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "Silver_Dream_Racer" <PAUL@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Some of you maybe aware that the APT sites have been off since Saturday, this also includes mine and Robs email.
>
> Ive just spoken to Paul Fletcher, and he has told me that there is a major hardware failure which is being worked on at the prsent time.
>
> Sadly, he couldn't give me a date when the servers will be back up again at present.
>
> I will keep you all posted.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> APT-E Conservation & Support Group
>

Hi ALl,
Both domains are off, including email, so if you need to contact me, please use silver_dream_racer@...

Sadly there is still no news on the ISP being able to re-enable the sites.

Regards

Paul

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "misterrtilt" <bosspecops@...> wrote:
>
> Your APT-E.org email address is bouncing too Paul, presumably for the same reason. I got a bounce from it this morning after commenting on the potential move of venue for our next meeting.
>
> Regards
> Kit
>
> --- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "Silver_Dream_Racer" <PAUL@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Some of you maybe aware that the APT sites have been off since Saturday, this also includes mine and Robs email.
> >
> > Ive just spoken to Paul Fletcher, and he has told me that there is a major hardware failure which is being worked on at the prsent time.
> >
> > Sadly, he couldn't give me a date when the servers will be back up again at present.
> >
> > I will keep you all posted.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Paul
> > APT-E Conservation & Support Group
> >
>

Hi All,
The APT sites are back up, of a sort, but are a year out of date hopefully something they are able to fix, or a lot of uploading is going to have to take place.

Email for both me and Rob is still off.

I will keep you posted as to progress.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group

Hi All,
The websites (where back up) Saturday morning, but seem to have gone again.

When they were up, the sites were a year out of date.

I re-upload the E train site last night, but like I say, at the time of writting Saturday 2:45pm, the sites are off again.

Both me and Rob, still have no domain email, regardless.

Regards

Paul

Hi All,
The sites are now back up and running so I have re-uploaded the E train site so its up to date.

I have just posted the workday report for the 16th June, some interesting stuff to be seen.

There are a couple of videos on the page, first take a while to start, but it should get there.

http://www.apt-e.org/workdays/16june2012/16june2012.html

Any problems, or bits missing off the site, please let me know.

Contacted me on silver_dream_racer@...

as the domain emails for both me and Rob are still off.

Regards

Paul

Hi all

the www.APT-P.com should now be available again and up to date (as of May 2012)

I hope to get some more updates loaded soon as I have a number of photo's to add to the Gallery Pages...

If anyone finds any broken links or missing images plese email me at -

advanced.passenger.train@...

(The domain email systems for Paul & myself are still now working)

Best wishes


Rob
www.APT-P.com

Sorry that should have read still NOT working !!


Rob
www.APT-P.com

> (The domain email systems for Paul & myself are still now working)

As on the website, please note that this workday has been called off.

August is planned as normal.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group.

Not quite core APT-E news, but if people haven’t heard about it, BBC4 is showing “The Intercity 125 – The Age of The Train”  tonight (Thursday) at 9pm.

 

I’m not sure if the APT will be mentioned as part of the surrounding story, but it should be interesting nonetheless.  As someone who still relies on these to get to work every day, they still are an impressive beast (even re-engined, and under far too many layers of paint).

 

Gordon

 

On the BBC website there are some clips from this programme and the APT does get at least a mention -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00yjhm6


Best wishes


Rob
www.APT-P.com

Last night's show is now available on the BBC iPlayer site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mqv43/The_Age_of_the_Train/

Enjoy!
Andy

http://www.flickr.com/photos/AA-Rail-Pics

Hi ALl,
At long last, my Paul@... mailbox is back in action.

In the next three to four weeks, we should find out if APT-E is going to get its National Heritage Engineering Award, which I applied for some time ago.

Everyone please cross there fingers.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group.

370 002 pictured at Carlisle on 26th April 1984, Copyright © David Wood

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ygAv1ys26pk/UHV5x6hv_UI/AAAAAAAAHF0/4Ryi_pQaP_g/s1600/APT+Carlisle.jpg

H&S would have a field day with that chair being used as a means of getting in and out of the cab!

Take care,
Andy

http://www.flickr.com/photos/AA-Rail-Pics

From the Railway Eye

http://youtu.be/hsfq1mD-LOk

Is there something we should be told?

:-)

Nick

Hello Wheaty,

Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 4:04:33 PM, you wrote:

> From the Railway Eye

> http://youtu.be/hsfq1mD-LOk

> Is there something we should be told?

> :-)

3 Car? 1 Driving Cab? A turn around loop at each end of track maybe?

Can I have some on the new electrification at Bolton please?

Ken Ward.


--
Best regards,
G1ITV mailto:g1itv@...

http://www.apt-e.org/eha/eha.html

If you are wondering what this is try this link.....

www.imeche.org/eha

The train is now part of a historic elite group of items.

I will keep you posted as to when the award is going to be presented.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group.

Hi Paul

Blank your postcode out mate :-)

Nick

On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 18:34 +0000, Silver_Dream_Racer wrote:
>
> http://www.apt-e.org/eha/eha.html
>
> If you are wondering what this is try this link.....
>
> www.imeche.org/eha
>
> The train is now part of a historic elite group of items.
>
> I will keep you posted as to when the award is going to be presented.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> APT-E Conservation & Support Group.
>
>
>
>
>

Hello Silver_Dream_Racer,

Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 7:34:52 PM, you wrote:

> http://www.apt-e.org/eha/eha.html

> If you are wondering what this is try this link.....

> www.imeche.org/eha

> The train is now part of a historic elite group of items.

> I will keep you posted as to when the award is going to be presented.

> Regards

> Paul
> APT-E Conservation & Support Group.

Typically very late and incredibly well deserved!



Ken Ward.
--
Best regards,
G1ITV mailto:g1itv@...

Hi Nick,
Well spotted, you have gained some points for that one.

Actually, the postcode on it is well wrong, thats why I didnt blank it out.

I am suprised it actually made it to me at all.

But thank you for pointing it out, just in case.

Regards

Paul

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, Nick Evans <nicks-ygroups@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul
>
> Blank your postcode out mate :-)
>
> Nick
>
> On Tue, 2012-10-23 at 18:34 +0000, Silver_Dream_Racer wrote:
> >
> > http://www.apt-e.org/eha/eha.html
> >
> > If you are wondering what this is try this link.....
> >
> > www.imeche.org/eha
> >
> > The train is now part of a historic elite group of items.
> >
> > I will keep you posted as to when the award is going to be presented.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Paul
> > APT-E Conservation & Support Group.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Thank you very much Ken.

I am still just so please, I cannot tell you how much.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group.

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, G1ITV <g1itv@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Silver_Dream_Racer,
>
> Tuesday, October 23, 2012, 7:34:52 PM, you wrote:
>
> > http://www.apt-e.org/eha/eha.html
>
> > If you are wondering what this is try this link.....
>
> > www.imeche.org/eha
>
> > The train is now part of a historic elite group of items.
>
> > I will keep you posted as to when the award is going to be presented.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Paul
> > APT-E Conservation & Support Group.
>
> Typically very late and incredibly well deserved!
>
>
>
> Ken Ward.
> --
> Best regards,
> G1ITV mailto:g1itv@...
>

Hi All,
Just upload an update to the E train site.

http://www.apt-e.org/workdays/3nov2012/3nov2012.html

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group.

http://www.apt-e.org/workdays/1december2012/1december2012.html

If you want a laugh, watch this video of us in E train on Saturday.

No damage, it was a short on one of the feed cables, more next time.

Lets not tell the NRN about this, LOL!!!!!!!!!

http://www.apt-e.org/videos/hothothot.MOD

Enjoy.

Regards

Paul

Are there any pics of the restoration of lab4 please?

Yes I have a few of the work I have done on the roof, it's a slow old job but its still progressing.

Sent from my iPhone

Hi All

Photos of all the work to date. I will create a proper update when I have 5 minutes

http://www.flickr.com/photos/50531694@N04/sets/72157627881025271/

cheers

Shane

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "Shane.wilton" <shane.wilton@...> wrote:
>
> Yes I have a few of the work I have done on the roof, it's a slow old job but its still progressing.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

I feel I should point out that Shane has been the ONLY person to work on Lab 4, almost since the day we moved her to Coventry. We owe him a big cheer for all the mind-numbing work he's done on the roof so far.

Sadly I've been laid low with pneumonia for most of the late summer and autumn and I've only just recovered enough to drive again in the last week or so. Hopefully I'll be able to get back to Coventry in the New Year.

We did find that the straight 'Z' section stringer structure under the end windows on the east side, what we call the 'Good Side', had corroded badly and it all needs to be replaced. I managed to obtain some 16 ft of the 'Z' section to do this, but we need a welder, both the machine and the person, to do the job.

As there are very few of us available to work on Lab 4, two at present, and almost zero funding, it's going to be a long time before we get her looking anywhere near like she did in 1974.

I do have a cunning plan up my sleeve to give visitors and idea of what she may look like eventually though......

Regards
Kit

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "shane.wilton" <shane.wilton@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> Photos of all the work to date. I will create a proper update when I have 5 minutes
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/50531694@N04/sets/72157627881025271/
>
> cheers
>
> Shane
>
> --- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "Shane.wilton" <shane.wilton@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes I have a few of the work I have done on the roof, it's a slow old job but its still progressing.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
>

Ive just managed to watch these, all be it with no sound.

The first two clips I have never seen before.

See if you can view them.

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//ITN/1971/06/08/FS080671153/?s=advanced+passenger+train&st=0&pn=1

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//ITN/1971/06/08/FS080671152/?s=advanced+passenger+train&st=0&pn=1

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//ITN/1994/09/20/BSP200994019/?s=advanced+passenger+train&st=0&pn=1

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//ITN/1986/07/03/AS030786010/?s=advanced+passenger+train&st=0&pn=1

The links all have to be put in as 1 part urls.

Regards

Paul

Forgot to say, when the page appears go to the very bottom and select play clip.

Enjoy, if you can.

Regards

Paul

Magic stuff there Paul, well spotted!

I've never seen a vid of the tilt rig actually moving before, it sure takes me back! <g>

As for those vandals stripping out the P-Trains, they should be ashamed of themselves.

regards
Kit

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "Silver_Dream_Racer" wrote:
>
> Ive just managed to watch these, all be it with no sound.
>
> The first two clips I have never seen before.
>
> See if you can view them.
>
> http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//ITN/1971/06/08/FS080671153/?s=advanced+passenger+train&st=0&pn=1
>
> http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//ITN/1971/06/08/FS080671152/?s=advanced+passenger+train&st=0&pn=1
>
> http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//ITN/1994/09/20/BSP200994019/?s=advanced+passenger+train&st=0&pn=1
>
> http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist//ITN/1986/07/03/AS030786010/?s=advanced+passenger+train&st=0&pn=1
>
> The links all have to be put in as 1 part urls.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>

...ITN News clips of APT-E / POP/ and APT-P

>> Ive just managed to watch these, albeit with no
>> sound....

I have sound on the last two clips; admittedly, it seems to be at fairly low level. (A bit sad to have it on the last one!)

Some unintentionally amusing text in the OCR'd caption information on the first clip... could we have some informed Kitteration about exactly what part of the test procedure is being undertaken, preferably with some good stories...?

Hm yes, whoever wrote that caption does not seem to have English as their primary language. I'm not even sure that there IS such a language on the planet!

As for the testing going on, the Power Car bouncing up and down is being vibrated at low frequency to determine it's natural vertical bending frequency, in the fond hope that it didn't co-incide with the secondary suspension's natural frequency and thus bounce itself off the track. It didn't, rather obviously, or I probably wouldn't have been able to write this.

Similar tests in the lateral mode showed up a troublesome frequency later on and that was one reason why the 5th turbine was mounted as a tuned mass damper during one re-build. The damper concerned is just one of the items you're likely to trip over when passing through PC1 and PC2. I don't of course because my head knows EXACTLY where they are due to some subliminal counting of strides from one end of the vehicle or the other.....

That SA bogie they show looks VERY clean and polished, it must be one of the E Train bogies as the POP Train SA bogies were never THAT clean!

As for the tilt rig swinging back and forth, we were doing pretty much the same thing as the 'Bouncing Power Car' was, ie finding out the natural frequencies of the tilt system with a suitable mass attached. The rig simulated half a power car or trailer car depending how many ballast weights we had loaded in 'The Coffin'.

That was quite an early test as there's no sign of the large coils of hydraulic pipework we installed to simulate half the length of a vehicle. Looking at the stuff in the background I think that was part od our test programme to evaluate different types of servo-valve, which were pretty comprehensive but oh so time consuming!

It was during one of those tests that the famous 'Burst Hose' incident occured, referred to by Hugh Williams in 'The Bible' when I had to whizz down the stairs and shut down the main laboratory HPS (er, sorry, Hydrualic Power Supply) to prevent it flooding out the whole lab. What Hugh didn't mention was the large pile of ballast weights that were just out of shot to the right of the rig. I had to clear those to reach the emergency stop button and apparently I made it in one bound with feet to spare! I can't remember myself but the others were asking how I did at the High Jump afterwards....

Regards
Kit

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "Robert M. Ellsworth" wrote:
>
> ...ITN News clips of APT-E / POP/ and APT-P
>
>
> >> Ive just managed to watch these, albeit with no
> >> sound....
>
> I have sound on the last two clips; admittedly, it seems to be at fairly low level. (A bit sad to have it on the last one!)
>
> Some unintentionally amusing text in the OCR'd caption information on the first clip... could we have some informed Kitteration about exactly what part of the test procedure is being undertaken, preferably with some good stories...?
>

Hi All,
Just posted the latest update for APT-E.

http://www.apt-e.org/workdays/9feb2013/9feb2013.html

Enjoy.

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group

FANTASTIC photos Paul!

Talk about nostalgic, that one with Barrie, Malc and David installing the stuff looks JUST like it did when were building it in 1972! And Malc has hardly changed a jot either, superb work all of you.

Regards
Kit

--- In Advanced-Passenger-Train@yahoogroups.com, "Silver_Dream_Racer" <PAUL@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Just posted the latest update for APT-E.
>
> http://www.apt-e.org/workdays/9feb2013/9feb2013.html
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Paul
> APT-E Conservation & Support Group
>

Hi All,
Its been a while, but I have been in contact with the IoME about the presentation of the EHA to APT-E. A fixed date should be set by the middle of next week once some extra details have been worked out.

I will keep you posted.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & SUpport Group.

The Engineering Heritage Award is going to be presented to APT-E on the 3rd May 2013 or the 24th May 2013, once the final date for the presentation event is confirmed, I will let everyone know.

Regards

Paul
APT-E Conservation & Support Group.